In order, which is the most important to attract women? And which would you say is THE most important?

I'd say

• Income
• Height
• Looks
• Connections
• Physique
• Education

I wouldn't put personality on that list because you have to get to know a person to become attracted or turned off by that.

After noticing how evil short women can be about a man's height, I wondered if it was in my best interest to only date (or try to date) tall women and women of average height. Women 5'3 and up tend to care less about my height than women shorter. Do you notice the same? When I hear little women say they only want to date tall men so their kids can be tall (which doesn't always happen), it kind of makes me want to do the same, especially since I'm short for a guy (but not as short as these short women who tell me to get lost).

So I had this interesting conversation today where one of my female friends said she would never date a short man because she doesn't want to have to look down and have her man break his neck upwards to kiss her. Another woman said that was stupid and it didn't matter how you kissed. So I ask if you have a taller woman how do you guys kiss?

So let's get it straight. I get a decent amount of matches on Tinder but many times the conversation goes south once height comes up. Last week this really attractive woman sent me a super like and we started talking. We shared a lot of the same interests, football, video games, conspiracy theories, sci fi, wresting and swimming. When she asked me about my height, I cringed but she said cool and left it at that. 

We went to the pool in our area for our first date of all places, had fun and then went to a nearby bar after drying up. We stayed there for four hours talking. She said she couldn't wait to see me again. We made out a few times that night and I'm excited. She's taller than me too. I'd say about 5'6 or so. 

So I guess Tinder can work for us shorties 

(Reddit) As A Plus Sized Woman, What Irritates You In Dating?

The parallels between what Short Men talk about and what fat chicks talk about are almost so identical, of course except that the key to all of their (fatties) problems are within literal reach. Anyone of them can get up on any day and lose f**** weight. I don't care how hard it is. Either be happy being a fatty or lose weight and be like everyone else! Check out some of the things people said on that post

• guys who want to fuck you but would never actually date a fat girl
• That I'm not allowed to have standards or dealbreakers, that fatty should just be happy with what she gets.
• Guys who act like they deserve a pat on the back for dating me or shit talk skinny/fit women to contrast. "I'm not like other guys, I hate skin and bones, I like extra meat on a woman". Shut the fuck up.
• I always felt like I couldn't initiate things because I couldn't assume if a guy would be okay with a chubbier girl. I didn't want to offend a guy by coming on to him. I had to let the guy be the one to ask me. It was the only way to be okay with it.
• I lost seventy pounds but what i fucking hated about dating at my highest weight is that i would be up front with people about my weight in an internet dating or friend of friend set up situation. Full body pics (clothed), no fancy angles, sometimes even gave them a fucking number on a scale and it never failed that two of the guys would be like, ON THE DATE and tell me to my face that "oh i didn't realize you were THAT big" when i honestly overcommunicated my size to avoid that sort of situation. Also got a guy who wanted to be my trainer.
• People telling me "Oh, you're awesome. You're perfect and I'd date you in a heartbeat if you were thinner". How about go fuck yourself! I wouldn't date you if I was thinner or fatter.Guys seem to think this is a big fucking compliment. It's not.

How can these chicks not see the similarities? Do I feel sorry for them? Nope. Chances are they too are on the "nope won't date a guy shorter than me" bandwagon.

I read this on reddit and it made me think. He has a point. I mean, not to bash us or anything but a woman really shouldn't be called shallow for seeking traits she wants in a life partner. Thoughts?

"Discriminating about height in romance isn't a shallow thing. That's a permanent trait & therefore longterm realism in action.

It's not like being put off by crooked teeth, the name of someone's fave band or even the lack of an education

It would be shallow not to get past the crooked teeth because they're not necessarily forever.

But getting somebody of the wrong height is something that's seen down the generations. Can't be escaped. It isn't "shallow" to take a pass on something so far-reaching."

a comment from the below article about dating:

"Side note: I have a personal connection to this issue. My nephew (28) lives in NYC, he’s good looking (yes, he is), in excellent shape, has a PhD in Comp Sci and banks 270K+/yr. He would totally relate to this article because it’s utter hell for him to sustain (much less even get) the attention of girls his age. So, what’s his problem? He’s “only” 5-9. An extenuating problem is his limited dating experience, having been committed to education up until three or so years ago, but he’s fixing that. Every time we discuss this subject, he reminds me how the girls flat out tell him them they want someone taller. He even tries to make light of it by saying he’s a solid member of the “invisibles” club but I can see it hurts him deeply."

http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/understanding-men/40-year-old-men-want-to-get-married-too-on-not-being-the-old-guy-in-the-club/

My boyfriend and I have been talking on deeper levels lately and he basically flat-lined me with this one....

He said he does not want to have kids because he does not want to risk having a son who will grow up short and struggle with the same issues he has. I didn't even know what to say. I went into the other room and cried because I want kids. 

Has anyone ever said they didn't want to have kids do to height? I am curious here.